View Full Version : Here's some modern ugly designs

17-08-2007, 07:57 PM
In the 'green' race to reduce our carbon footprint some modern designers have committed sins of unspeakable ugliness.

The yellow thing is based around a scooter:




and the square box on wheels is solar powered:


so much for aerodynamics :roll:


17-08-2007, 08:02 PM
Well I couldn't say that the yellow one would endanger my breakfast retention, but there's certainly a lack of styling about the 'box-on-wheels'!

Perhaps there's scope for a styling discussion thread, since Ebay seems to be slow on the abysmal at the moment ...... :D

17-08-2007, 08:10 PM
I like the scooter! It's sort of an update on the old Messerschmidts and Isetta's. I'd roll it!

17-08-2007, 08:25 PM
I'd say it was based on a fish with a number plate like that.

17-08-2007, 08:30 PM
Rick said," I'd roll it."

Is that a reflection on your driving style and your estimate of its ability to go round corners? :)

18-08-2007, 08:02 AM
:shock: Since when has a dolphin been a fish? :lol:

18-08-2007, 10:27 AM
fish mammal they both swim in the water.

18-08-2007, 01:03 PM
if your concerned about carbon foot print and style you need a tesla roadster, battery powered with no emisions and still does 130mph! will only acheve around 100 miles but very "GREEN".

240-horsepower and 0-50 in around 4 seconds



18-08-2007, 01:39 PM
Cool! Shame about the price 98,950 dollars excluding taxes

Big Birds Car
18-08-2007, 07:06 PM
Surely the tesla has a huge carbon footprint a bloody great power station to recharge it :lol:

18-08-2007, 11:31 PM
Rick said," I'd roll it."

Is that a reflection on your driving style and your estimate of its ability to go round corners? :)

:lol: Both! Go fast enough and watch that rear come around to the front!

BBC - the Tesla was featured in the Top Gear magazine not too long ago. The general gist was, while it still does require fossil fuels to recharge, the overall footprint when compared to a 'normal' car is really quite small. It's the new green car with the Hollywood elite here - the first production run is already sold out!


19-08-2007, 08:05 AM
Are we slowly sliding off topic here...... if so I'll give a little push.

If you look near the bottom of this page you can see a calculation of it's efficiency from power station to wheel, converted in MPG. It's only in the +/-80 mpg range. And, of course, there's the whole life cycle cost of producing and recycling the batteries (900+kg).

IMHO, the electric car manufacturers all make the same basic error. They try to give us a car with a standard range of 100+ miles. Who needs that, most trips are less than 5 miles? Just give us a car with a say 25 mile range (then you can welly it all the time :) ) saving 750 kgs of battery, and easy access to a plug-in extra-range pack when we need it.


Big Birds Car
19-08-2007, 08:29 AM
Nigelf, 25 miles wouldn't get the shopping done by my wife, in fact today one of the kids wants to see some friends and it will be 24 mile round trip just to drop her off, now if the wife had done her usual and driven the car but not told me or put it on charge (bit like "oh use my car dear" and when you get in you just know you are going to end up with something to repair or put fuel in it) then what do you do. I have two PLG cars and that is a pain, every now and then you end up on petrol as there isn't enough LPG stations around. If you look at most cars on the british roads they have the ability to do somewhere around 300 to maybe 450 miles on a full tank on motorway driving. The states it is probably more, my suburban has a 42 gallon tank! (never filled it to the top yet :shock: )
If you are going to do an eco friendly car then it needs to tick all the boxes, Style, Performance, Comfort and ease of use. I have to concede that it does look good and at the right price I would have one. The Hollywood set are a bunch of publicity seekers, just see how many have a Toyota Prius and they are a shocking car to look at in my opinion but they need to look like they care for the environment and not about how much money they are making, so I can see the prius will be ditched and these will be everywhere. Have to hand it to the manufacturer, they see what most people want to see and have done the right thing.
Now what happened to all that guff on Hydrogen cars hum not heard alot about them recently have we.

Dan whatever happens please DON'T start a topic on governments and climate change as I won't be able to stop myself :lol:

19-08-2007, 12:29 PM
Phew BBC, I thought my little push was going to cause an avalanche there :)

Yes BBC, some people do make longer trips, so there has to be prevision for them to be able to so. But the vast majority of trips are a lot shorter.
As well as extra large plug-in power packs, I envisage charging points at every parking place. It'll never work though.... if people can't be bothered to turn off lights or shut doors behind them, how can you expect them to plug in their car everytime they park it?

Big problem with Hydrogen cars is the energy required to produce it in the first place.


19-08-2007, 01:21 PM
I'll push it further. According to Top Gear, the range exceeded 240 miles on a charge. That's backed up with the website data ( http://www.teslamotors.com/ ) which is more than enough for general usage in the states here. Most commuters average 60 miles one way here - my wife works in another state :shock: and averages a 50 mile round trip every day. So something like this would be fine for her (if I could afford it!) Plus, in theory you could recharge the car from a solar panel bank charging a battery pack on your home - so free energy there!

But yes, we are going off topic....but that's ok!

19-08-2007, 01:40 PM
I agree - if we all stuck exactly to the thread topic it could get very boring! (within reason, of course :wink: )

19-08-2007, 01:54 PM

http://vwnettet.dk/forum/topic/247004 That link is to a German forum, some very nice examples, including some of our members cars, i think. It also has it fair share of ugly buggers tho'

19-08-2007, 02:00 PM
YEP that's pretty ugly! :lol:

19-08-2007, 03:46 PM
If you really want to go green:

19-08-2007, 08:55 PM
http://vwnettet.dk/forum/topic/247004 That link is to a German forum, some very nice examples, including some of our members cars, i think. It also has it fair share of ugly buggers tho'[/quote]

This is a Danish forum, not German.

19-08-2007, 10:23 PM