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Alzax3
05-07-2009, 09:29 PM
Sounds to be pretty much as delivered from the factory......
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eagle-SS-Kit-Car- ... 1|294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eagle-SS-Kit-Car-Kitcar_W0QQitemZ300327888740QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAut omobiles_UK?hash=item45ecefe764&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A10|66%3A2|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1 |293%3A1|294%3A50)
Alzax3
18-07-2009, 08:24 PM
And again:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eagle-SS-Kit-Car- ... 1|294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eagle-SS-Kit-Car-Kitcar_W0QQitemZ300331268454QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAut omobiles_UK?hash=item45ed237966&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A10|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50)
Alzax3
28-07-2009, 08:58 AM
and again: :whistling:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eagle-SS-Kit-Car- ... 1|294%3A50 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Eagle-SS-Kit-Car-Kitcar_W0QQitemZ300333685911QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAut omobiles_UK?hash=item45ed485c97&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A10|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50)
letterman7
28-07-2009, 01:28 PM
First time I ever saw a sticker that said "Built under license from Amore Cars Ltd" :w00t: I had thought that the Eagle was a knock-off of the Cimbria, not that they (Eagle) bought the rights to it!
benherron
29-08-2009, 11:34 AM
.......and brought by ME!
:groupwave:
Build is on Eagle Owners Forum
http://eaglecarclub.proboards.com/index ... hread=1064 (http://eaglecarclub.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=SS&action=display&thread=1064)
Big Birds Car
29-08-2009, 01:12 PM
So did you buy the rights from TEAC? and if so did you get the "prototype" with the mid mount engine in it?
Again if so what are your plans for the future, are you going to manufacture or are you just going to build a one off and have the moulds for spares etc.
Rick the SS was not a knock off but a correctly certified company. I believe that the Eagle owners club has a brief history of how it came about. I haven't been on the site for a few years now after there was a big fallout between members (does that ring a bell to anyone on here) and also because there was only one other person running an SS at the time who decided enough was enough of the bickering and stopped posting, besides I had the Nova as well so the Nova international site was what I spent most time on.
Good luck with the Eagle project (hope you got a screen with it).
Spacenut
29-08-2009, 06:38 PM
I had thought that the Eagle was a knock-off of the Cimbria, not that they (Eagle) bought the rights to it!
Yes, the Eagle was a licenced version of the Cimbria - but alas, without the DeTomaso Mangusta-style split rear window...
I've never been a fan of the pop-up "carriage lamps" on the Eagle, but I suppose at the time the Porsche 928 was the car to have, and that had exactly the same set up. How times have changed... :thumbdown:
Hi Ben - welcome to the Euro Nova forum - have you looked at maybe using the Eagle Plus 2 nose, with fixed headlamps under glass? That would at least "keep it in the family" as it were, and the Plus 2 is so undesirable that basket cases regularly pop up on ebay!
http://server11.web-mania.com/users/eag ... /2Plus.jpg (http://server11.web-mania.com/users/eaglekit/images/Navigation/2Plus.jpg)
Good luck with your project - sounds like you have got yourself some interesting projects there :cool1:
Lauren
thestevie
29-08-2009, 07:34 PM
i almost bought a porsche 928 i saw one in maine when i was there
but i couldnt get past the head lights
benherron
29-08-2009, 11:40 PM
No the TEAC is based on the later Ford version, this comes on a custom built chassis (I think they have recently had issues with the new IVA).
Mine is an older VW based, but hasnt been altered very much, few holes cut and basic interior flbreglassed in, but not been bolted to chassis, thus the out of the factory comment.
Yes I have a lovely screen!! main reason why I paid more than £500 (some go for so little without a screen), as I've heard people paying up to £400 just for a screen.
First thing I did was take it out so I could hang the body.
Does anyone know if Autoglass or other company can replace it properly, i.e. with rubber seals not DIY siliconed in?? is so what am i looking at £££?
Thanks Spacenut, I will definitely be on the look out for a plus 2!
I've added a post to the Registration threads, please have a look.
For ebay finds.... at the moment you have 14 hours to buy a rare Hensen M30
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 296wt_1167 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330353687029&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_1296wt_1167)
I WANT! but not enough garage space.
and an avante just sold for under £120!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 500wt_1182 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250484209711&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_500wt_1182)
Big Birds Car
30-08-2009, 12:01 AM
My daughters boyfriend is looking very interested in the Hensen (as was I but I have way too many toys and projects at the moment).
As for screen fitment, I spoke to a guy who was fitting a screen to a car in the works carpark and asked him if he would do a private job and he said he would, cost for a Nova screen fitting was £40. Haven't had it done as yet as work on the car has been halted for somewhile due to other projects getting in the way. Hope this helps.
Spacenut
31-08-2009, 01:00 PM
Both the Nova and Eagle windscreens were only ever designed to be bonded-in. As such the screen actually acts as structural reinforcement. There is a finising strip available for use with bonded windscreens (it has a lip that conceals the bond line and is used on many modern cars), but I doubt it would fit the screen aperture in an Eagle, unless you made it larger.
I can't say I'm surprised that TEAC foundered over the new regs. I know these cars look great, and we would all want to see them made available to a wider audience, with bigger, more modern engines etc., but the market just isn't there, and legislation is working to keep it that way... forever. The best we can do is keep our old crocks alive as best we know how :wink:
Good luck with your project Ben!
Lauren
thestevie
31-08-2009, 02:48 PM
I know these cars look great, and we would all want to see them made available to a wider audience, with bigger, more modern engines etc., but the market just isn't there, and legislation is working to keep it that way... forever.
production car?
imagine that...
it started as a kit car only to be made into the next super car.
Big Birds Car
31-08-2009, 03:00 PM
it started as a kit car only to be made into the next super car.
Look at the Noble cars, started off as kit cars for racing and replica's of an old ferrari (P4 I think) then went into producing proper road cars as well a kits and have just launched a 235mph supercar at a cost of £200,000.00 a go.
So not impossible.
Spacenut
31-08-2009, 05:15 PM
Well, that wasn't quite how it happened, but I take your point.
Lee Noble designed the Mk1 Ultima (the chassis of which was later used on the Noble P4), and went off to win the Kit Car racing series two years running, mainly because of the excellent handling. It is that racing pedigree that makes Lee's designs so successful. As well as the Noble M10/12/15 series (the M10 was still very much a "kit car", the 12 and 15 fully type approved series production machines), the Ascari is also in his portfolio.
I'm afraid the big problem is that there is a real lack of engineering talent, coupled with substantial finance, in the kit car world. Lee Noble is definately an exception, rather than the rule - a sort of latterday Colin Chapman (although not quite as obsessive about weight :D). All these Cobra replicas, GT40s, fake Fezzas and Lambos - they all talk-the-talk, and will clearly perform very well in normal road use, but can't hope to match up to the performance of purpose built cars that have been honed on the racetrack and modified and adjusted until they are just right.
Even the Ultima, widely regarded as the fastest car available in kit form, performed very poorly in the FIA GT championship a couple of years back, and hasn't been seen since. Its got a spaceframe for Heaven's sake - that's just soooooo 1960's!
I could go on, but I'll stop here. I agree with you BBC - it is possible... but unlikely. And to the likes of TEAC, and Sam Cobley and Sterling Sports Cars, and everyone else that has tried to breathe new life into these classic shapes, I salute you all, but I fear your efforts will ultimately be in vain...
Listen to me - I thought BBC was the Euro Nova "voice of doom" :sorry:
Lauren
thestevie
31-08-2009, 06:18 PM
what about people like Jerod Shelby owner of ssc (shelby super cars) Gerald Wieger (vector motors owner) vector is still making cars. Elon Musk (telsa motors)
they made super cars and made them from scratch.
Alzax3
31-08-2009, 09:31 PM
But they're in America, and making supercars not kits, it's a different market, and your government doesn't seem quite so set on ruining all possible fun avenues......
Spacenut
01-09-2009, 01:07 PM
True. I was thinking mainly of the UK situation, which isn't anywhere near as pleasant. I wasn't aware that Gerry Weigart had sold any of his new Vectors yet. He sold precious few of the old ones (17 W8s), but I will concede some of the engineering was first-class, and any car that apes the 1968 Alfa Carabo gets my vote :D
...Which unfortunately the WX-8 doesn't, but you can't have everything I suppose...
Lauren
thestevie
01-09-2009, 02:23 PM
ohh the uk side of things
why doesn't someone there make the nova in a production car...
benherron
01-09-2009, 08:53 PM
Mainly due to the revised registering laws, i.e. Kit car test.
Things have changed quite dramatically, firstly the price, doubled to £450. Not an issue for the manufacturer but as these are/were sub £5000 kits then another £500 is a consideration.
Secondly things like seatbelt heights and locking mechanisms have been changed, I thing the eagle is too low to get the seatbelt height correct, there's a minimum height from pan to top seatbelt point, ive heard we're too low.
Plus you now need some special double locking mechanism?!? Anyway it would probably be the same issues for the Nova.
And are the original moulds even still around for the Nova?
Spacenut
01-09-2009, 09:59 PM
And are the original moulds even still around for the Nova?
Alex has some, in his legendary "mould mountain", but to be even slightly competitive in the current market, a suitable modern mid-engine chassis would be needed, and that's before all the bodywork mods required to pass the IVA test (edges, corners, projections, seat belt anchorages, headlamp height, burstproof latches etc.)
What you are looking at is pretty much a brand-new car. Better to do that, and call it something else. There's plenty of other astronomical names... Black Hole might be appropriate :wink:
Lauren
thestevie
02-09-2009, 08:54 AM
Black Hole might be appropriate
Lauren
thats what i named my boat
well how about this name it something else (black hole if you want it be named after my sail boat)
but name the series of cars nova. much like the vette.
sure you would have to change the car its really old.
it would be easy to meet the laws and design a new mid engine.
but trying to it a nova is going to be the hardest.
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