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letterman7
08-10-2012, 12:03 PM
We've got a new member on the US forums that needs help identifying his car; I suggested he sign up here as he's from Denmark. It's a model I've not seen before - a weird hybrid of a Cimbria/Eagle and our Sebring - the nose and tail are exactly like our series 1 Sebrings, the doors are definitely Cimbria/Eagle:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/letterman7/glasfiber-karroseri.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/letterman7/glasfiber-karroseri2.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/letterman7/glasfiber-karroseri3.jpg

Put your thinking caps on ladies and gentlemen! And if and when he signs in, please welcome Anders!

Thx,
Rick

CyCo
08-10-2012, 02:51 PM
Wow, cool. One question, are those doors meant to be like the scissor doors on a Lambo, or are these specific to the kit in question?

Wasn't there one variant called the Ledl or something similar in northern europe?

letterman7
08-10-2012, 03:30 PM
I'd imagine that they are meant to be gull wing, like the Eagle. There was a kit called the Ledi, but I can't find any info on it! That's why I thought posting here would be helpful, as we've got a great collection of people far more familiar with what was floating around the UK and far east.

CyCo
08-10-2012, 03:41 PM
That's Ledl with two 'l's. I just checked Price of His Toys, and they have a photo of a Ledl AS kitcar (http://priceofhistoys.com/2006/05/27/ledl-as-kitcar/), and it's not the one in the photo in the op.

Alzax3
08-10-2012, 05:55 PM
They don't seem to project across the roof enough to be gull wing, so I reckon they're scissor type - but is that an owner's adaptation or was it a production model?

Spacenut
08-10-2012, 09:34 PM
No, its not a Ledl, although the Austrian version of the Nova did end up with conventional hinged doors - plus a mid-mounted Ford Fiesta engine and 13" wheels. There's clearly some work gone into the reinforcement of the door pillars which would not be necessary in a Cimbria. Also, whoever designed this car has done a good job of keeping the A pillars nice and slim, although again, the reinforced roof and A pillars are not necessary for coleopter doors. That's a lot of major changes to a Cimbria body for a one-off. Which points to a serious production proposal, even if this is the only one. Access to the cockpit looks pretty good!

I'm looking forward to finding out more about this previously unknown derivative!

Lauren

Dirk
08-10-2012, 11:07 PM
Well dont know what it is, but looking forward to seeing more pics of the door and hinges it looks like it has a flat windscreen? might just be the photo.

Dirk

Peter
09-10-2012, 12:47 PM
Although it does share a few design features with the SS it is a long way off one. I like the doors though, hmmmm thinking, thinking, again, but I don't think they are altered gull wings but if one was to 'Lambo' the SS that's the way to do it. Side and rear window and front bumper are sooo SS MKII and the front wings are more SS than Nova but apart from that it is a completely differnt version, (of something).

skorpiworm
11-10-2012, 06:36 AM
Hi first of all thx for all the input on my car.

I think I have reached a conclusion as to alle my evidence seems to point me in the direction of a modified sebring.

There are tiny inperfections in the doorframes and othere areas where the canopy would have seperated from the body.

The inperfections are really insignificant and is only visible if you know where to look for the line where the canopy should have been.

This job of converting the canopy to lambo style doors is really a projob and im proud to have a uniqe speciment in my hands.

I plan to add a few modifications my self to the body.

Fx. I have a set of spare rearlights from my old supra wich I will try to fit on the car

http://acj-design.dk/kitcar/sebring3.jpg

Obviously the rear bumper has to go as its too much '70 for my taste.

Id like to bring a more modern feel to the design.

Fortunately fiberglass is gracefull and offers the undo button :-P

Cheers Anders

LotusNova
11-10-2012, 06:49 AM
Like those lights :cool1:

skorpiworm
11-10-2012, 06:57 AM
http://acj-design.dk/kitcar/sebring4.jpg

I know the graphics is a bit primitive but it gives us a hint of whats to follow

LotusNova
11-10-2012, 07:05 AM
I love that low & wide look. It's the one thing I really regret losing with mine.

CyCo
11-10-2012, 07:07 AM
Welcome! I was thinking of using Toyota Supra tail lights at one stage myself, to the point of trying to work out how to use the lock in one of the tail lights to function for the lock of the engine cover.

Look forward to seeing more of your unique car.

:wink:

skorpiworm
11-10-2012, 10:52 AM
Unfortunately im forced to wait a bit before starting on the sebring project as i have to finish up my other project first.

Im currently working on my 1993 Citroen BX 16valve which also is starting to become a rare car as they tend to dissapear in a lille greenish brown pile of rust and hydraulic fluids.

NovaF4
11-10-2012, 12:54 PM
Interesting project Anders. With your last photo are you competing with me for who has the best looking hovercraft?


Id like to bring a more modern feel to the design.

Be careful. This is where many people fall down and create monsters!

However, if the rear bumper is supposed to be located in that lower position displayed on the photo then I'm not surprised you will be removing it as it looks ridiculous in that place.

The lights are nice but are very obviously from a Toyota Supra. If you are OK with that then fine. Personally I would choose something less obvious so that most people don't know where something is from.

Very best of luck to you with the project. Keep us up to date with all your work. Photos are best!

Giles

Spacenut
11-10-2012, 05:47 PM
Hi Anders, welcome to Euro-Nova :welcome:

I think you are right about the car being a modified Sebring - it clearly lacks the reinforcement to the roof and A-pillars required to support Eagle/Cimbrea gullwing doors. The coleopter doors look great, and because the side windows have such extreme camber, they should seal well when closed!

I'm looking forward to seeing more progress on this car, but by all means finish your BX first :D

(isn't the bonnet made of plastic on the BX? Or am I thinking of another car?)

Lauren

KEITHCANFIXIT
11-10-2012, 09:11 PM
Correct Lauren, both the bonnet and tailgate where made of plastic, some side panels as well on some models,.

KEITHCANFIXIT
11-10-2012, 09:24 PM
I had spent many a happy weekend in my youth up to my eyes literally in green mineral vegetable oil with the hydraulics on these,CX's and the old DS's, wish I had kept them now as they are worth a fortune. People ran a mile from them ,but they where probably the easiest hydraulic system to work on, oh the good old days, I must be getting old :cry: :cry:

Peter
12-10-2012, 02:06 PM
A BX! Gawd I had one of those when the twins were born 35 years ago, smooth ride.
Any chance of some close ups of the door hinge and latch (if it has one yet).

skorpiworm
12-10-2012, 05:53 PM
The bx bonnet and tailgate were actually fiberglass on most of the bx.

But the latest model including mine had a metal bonnet ofcause i have replaced that with a fiberglass bonnet saving about 4-5kg of weight.

And with the 160hp 16v engine this bx really flies and ofcause im addind individual throttlebodies and other cams bringing this old girl up to around 200hp and the car weighs in at a dash over 1000kg so its a quick little thing.

Ill see if I can get some pics in the weekend of the door hinges on the sebring.

In the meantime heres some photos of my other cars just now we are off topic anyway.

http://billeder2.bilgalleri.dk/galleri/515/628/471/2571341-bmw-m528-steptronic
http://billeder2.bilgalleri.dk/galleri/491/628/471/2451810-bmw-m528-steptronic

http://billeder2.bilgalleri.dk/galleri/255/628/471/1270751-citroen--bx-16valve
http://billeder2.bilgalleri.dk/galleri/306/628/471/1525837-citroen--bx-16valve

And last the wifemobil
http://billeder2.bilgalleri.dk/galleri/411/628/471/2053334-audi--a4

Cheers

skorpiworm
13-10-2012, 06:35 PM
Heres a little video of the doors and roofline

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD1sEE4OeA0&feature=plcp

Sorry for the poor aspect ratio I guess youtube and galaxy s2 dosnt work that well together however its still possible to see how the conversions is made

Enjoy

KEITHCANFIXIT
13-10-2012, 08:06 PM
Tried in vain to watch you " you tube video ", but unable. Can you try and load it again please, as will find it most interesting...thanks Keith

Spacenut
13-10-2012, 09:15 PM
Amazing - there's real potential there. I don't recognise any of the interior mouldings, but they may be unique to the Sebring. All you need is some suitable gas rams and a bit of attention to the shutlines and you will have a very impressive set of doors!

Lauren

skorpiworm
13-10-2012, 09:20 PM
KEITHCANFIXIT im not sure if the problem is on youtube or local to your computer but you can perhaps try again later and if it still wont work you can drop your email adress in a pm to me and i will send you the video.

letterman7
13-10-2012, 10:38 PM
I had no issues with viewing as well.. as Lauren mentioned, you have the beginning of a very unique ride! From what I could tell and the areas of fiberglass that were added, this car probably started out as a first generation Sebring, as the second generation had an integrated fiberglass floor and a slightly taller roofline. Whomever did the conversion put a bunch of work into the fiberglassing; I'm impressed that they actually put a bulkhead in front of the doors (though, probably necessary for structural sake). Depending how close the front edge of the door actually gets to the fender, you might be able to close up that gap with a little work. Very cool start to have!

skorpiworm
16-10-2012, 07:14 AM
For those with youtube problems you can get the raw mp4 videofile here http://acj-design.dk/kitcar/doors.mp4

Cheers Anders

nedn1066
12-11-2013, 03:15 PM
Hi, liked your car. I have a '71 Cimbria with gullwing doors. I really like to convert to either conventional a'la Ford GT or Lambo doors. I looked at you you tube clip, but could not see anything regarding the actuation would you have any still pics?


nedn1066
Monroeville, USA