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    Quote Originally Posted by bushboy View Post
    That Gear box mount looks like it raises the engine & gearbox quite higher than the original beetle box. Will that cause engine to body clearance issues, I'm thinking inlet manifold. And the COG will also be higher causing more body roll.

    Bushboy
    Its pretty much at the same height as having the subarugears gearbox mount, it needs to be that high for the gearbox flanges to clear the chassis horns. With a scooby engine it all seems to fit OK under the deck, but not sure on type 4, although that is lower than the type 1 beetle engine with its fan housing so should be OK I think

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushboy View Post
    That Gear box mount looks like it raises the engine & gearbox quite higher than the original beetle box. Will that cause engine to body clearance issues, I'm thinking inlet manifold. And the COG will also be higher causing more body roll.

    Bushboy
    You have got a point mate, and as Dave has suggested, raising (tilting-up) of the drivetrain is a 'feature' of any Subaru gearbox install onto a VW pan, not just my home-brew version.

    My opinion is that it (COG/Body roll) won't be an issue on the road,
    but I'll have to wait until the tyres hit the tarmac to know for certain ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueNova View Post
    Looks like heat distortion in the tube where the brackets have been welded on for the mounting bolts. I'd suggest to Limebug that whilst they're taking a look at it, they send you a new straight one!

    Alistair
    Agreed about the heat distortion, and that is what Flatlands suggested as well.


    I have not seen the beam in the flesh yet. I will be collecting it from FL and heading up to Limebug myself (Stoke on Trent). It should be an interesting meeting
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    If going fuel injection, then there is a lot of room between the top of the engine and bodywork; looking from the back, there is not much more above the centre of the fan to that below it, with the oil filler sticking up a few inches above everything else. `¬)
    I think it seems to sit lower than the beetle engine, so COG shouldn't be too bad, although it does weigh more...
    Last edited by MartinB; 26-11-2017 at 06:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve View Post
    Hi Martin,
    Yeah love the T4, I plan on fitting aftermarket fuel injection, not the standard L-Jet (or is it K-Jet?) from the 411/412, this is due to availability of parts as you suggest, plus the mapping capabilities and reliability of modern FI.
    KISS still applies, as there are a number companies who can supply and fit/convert *any* engine, I spoke too a couple of them at Stoneleigh. Downside is that aftermarket FI kits are pricey.

    I'd be looking to find *any* 2000cc T4 lump, e.g. CJ Engine code which appears to be the most common, is from a T2 van, they all have the same bore & stroke, even the Porsche 914 lumps.
    Having spent the last four weeks trying to map a single microsquirt unit I wouldn't take it that an "after market" EFi will be easy or P&P, it will not,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter View Post
    Having spent the last four weeks trying to map a single microsquirt unit I wouldn't take it that an "after market" EFi will be easy or P&P, it will not,
    Point taken mate.

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    The EMPI rear disk brake kit has arrived, some folk (on US forums mainly) aren't keen on EMPI (quality) but it seems decent enough, they haven't skimped on the metal thickness that's for certain, if you dropped the caliper on your foot you'd know all about it.
    The disks in the kit were in a Porsche 5 Stud & Chevy wheel pattern, I wanted perforated/drilled disks so I've sent them up to a company in Scotland to be drilled to one of their standard patterns.

    Today I picked up the gearbox from Mike Fletcher Engineering in Banbury.
    It has had the final drive changed to a (lower geared) 4.4:1 wheel & pinion, plus new seals, new nose cone, proper breather tube, replaced lots of missing bolts and ancillary fittings, looks great.
    Mike does a lot of work for Subarugears in the UK, A company called fellowsspeedshop are the UK rep for SG, but the Gearbox work is done by Mike.

    The guys at Flatlands asked me to provide a Type 4 engine case to help them with the build, I bought one off Ebay for £100, it's a GE engine code, which is a late (1978/79) case with hydraulic lifters, not sure if I should use this case as a basis for a full rebuild? Any thoughts on the hydraulic lifters?

    I have ordered a T4/Subaru Engine adaptor/Flywheel from Subarugears which appears to being delivered from OZ by bicycle...
    ...and the CV Joints/axles are on the way from the US, I've bought a lot of parts from US supplier moorepartssource on Ebay, a lot cheaper than UK suppliers and they seem reliable enough.

    Once everything arrives I'll deliver to Flatlands, the floorpans are now on the chassis and the pedal box prep has been done. I'll take some pics when I'm up there.

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    Mark at flatlands is normally good at keeping you updated with a photo build diary if you ask him, so no need to wait for a trip to get pictures ;}

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    practically every engine today has hydraulic lifters of one sort o r another and I wish my Mercedes Cosworth had the later head with them, would have saved me a whole heap of work and trouble.

    II bought most of my VW parts, (Empi, Bugpack, Kennedy etc about $2,500 worth) from the States but this global shipping thing is killing it with shipping and import duty automatically added it double the price, in the good old days one took a chance as to getting stung import and tax or not but now it's automatic and in Spain it is 17% duty plus admin of 17€ plus 21% tax. ouch.

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    I visited Flatlands yesterday to deliver parts and check on progress, the floorpans and 75mm dropped sections are in, as is the pedal box.
    The 'pans are from VW Heritage and look to be good quality, very solidly made.

    I plan on making full use of the centre tunnel for brake lines, clutch lines, main power cable, soleniod cable and a 13 Core loom cable. The 2 'dots' on the main tube ahead of the gear lever are conduit end-points, allowing chassis wiring to the dashboard area from the frame head / frame forks.

    The seat was used to check floors drops, gearlever and seatbelt mounts were correctly positioned.
    I will be using this style of seat as it maximises headroom, the curve of the seat base extends below the top of the seat runners and is just a few mm above the floorpan, It is quite a skinny seat and there is room for a slightly wider version which is something to think about.

    At the frame head, an earth connection point is next to the red power cable.

    At the back, the main feed to the starter motor and loom cable are shown, I am using the shorter swing-axle torsion bars which are less likely to foul on the side panels, the two rear height adjusters, in the foreground are about the only items from the original car's 'parts box' to be retained; the metal recycling bin at the local council tip has done well out of this build :-(

    Flatlands have devised an great solution for mounting the Wilwood front calipers, the flat U shaped bracket is the missing link between the vdubengineering brackets and the calipers themselves.

    The Saga of my curved front beam is ongoing, the current plan is for Limebug to send a replacement beam and to take back the faulty one to be "looked-at".

    Big thanks to the guys who provided parts lists, measurements, pictures, ideas, etc which were a great help in putting the chassis spec together.

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