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    Camber Compensators bars

    This is one for the swing axle crowd.

    Some people have commented on how much my rear wheels tuck in, so I have been having a trawl on what people do to deal with this issue.

    I have now found the compensator bar.

    Has anyone used them ? Are they any good ? Do you need to modify much to fit them ? Are they worthwhile ?

    Buffy

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    I don't have that issue as I run IRS, however the horrid camber is a result of lowering the car. I think that all the camber compensators do is stiffen up the rear, returning the "original" ride height, which is possibly not what you want!

    You can get lowered spring plates that will lower the rear of the car but keep the swing axle relatively flat giving you the desired effect of a low ride & up right rear wheels.

    I believe Red 9 and other similar supplier carry them

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    Bushboy
    I have red9 rear conversion so don't have spring plates anymore .....

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    IIRC...A camber compensator is designed to stop/reduce camber with the bottom of the rear wheels tuck in, due to the forces involved , especially when accelerating while cornering and/or going round a tight corner at speed.
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    I understood it was a transverse leaf spring which resists the tendency for the rear end to jack up under braking. To do this the spring works in the opposite sense to a normal suspension spring - it is trying to pull the car down against the force of the torsion bars.

    I'm sure someone has used one on a Nova in the past, was it Jim's Nena?

    The other famous swing axle tweak is the Z-bar, which is like an anti-roll/sway bar made by Jeremy Clarkson - the ends of the bar face in opposite directions. When the drop links are attached, the bar resists any significant movement by the swing axle, up or down (the camber compensator only works in one direction). This minimises the camber change, while still permitting the body to move around the roll axis.

    Of the two, the Z-bar is the more sophisticated, but the camber compensator will provide some benefit. It's like a Panhard rod vs. a Watts linkage on a live axle - they both do the same job, but the Watts linkage does it a little bit better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacenut View Post
    I understood it was a transverse leaf spring which resists the tendency for the rear end to jack up under braking. To do this the spring works in the opposite sense to a normal suspension spring - it is trying to pull the car down against the force of the torsion bars.

    I'm sure someone has used one on a Nova in the past, was it Jim's Nena?


    Lauren
    It was indeed on Nena.

    i also had one on the Bugle buggy and transferred it to the Apal. They do work well for a simple bit of kit - bolt to the beetle gearbox casing and the springs cup the axle tubes and apply upwards pressure to them stopping them drop too low. I have successfully used them to correct camber on swing axle cars.
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    As spacenut has said it's a transverse leaf spring etc.

    Easy to fit & helps get rid of the saddle bag look of the rear end. I take it your running at standard ride hight on you Red9 rear end?

    I'm not sure if it helps in the handling side of things as I've only covered 130 ish miles of testing & I don't know what a Nova feels like without one.

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    You mean you have one fitted ?
    I know your are a rear end swinger....
    That doesn't sound quite right does it!😀

    I am red9 same as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    You mean you have one fitted ?
    I know your are a rear end swinger....
    That doesn't sound quite right does it!😀

    I am red9 same as yours.
    Yes I have one fitted on my rear & yes it sound very wrong lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mostin View Post
    Yes I have one fitted on my rear & yes it sound very wrong lol.
    Do you have the one which cups the shaft ( EMPI), or the other which has a strap around the shaft ?

    In theory, to me , the latter sounds and looks more effective as it would cater for both upwards and downwards movement.

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